I Engaged a College GOPer Who Backed Down

| January 4, 2012 | 0 Comments

Welcome back! Happy New Year! I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and a great start to your 2012. But seriously, though, where did 2011 go?! It was a blur for me. I remember things happening last year that actually happened in 2010, and I’m not the only person I know who is thinking like this.

Anyway, last night I had the pleasure of talking online with someone who was watching the Iowa results come in. After explaining to him that Iowa really doesn’t matter due to their small numbers and how many Presidents actually lost Iowa, and those who won didn’t become President of the United States, he then informed me that he knew that.


I commented that no GOP serious contenders/heavy hitters/darlings (Chris Christie, Mike Huckabee, Rudy Giuliani or [God forbid] Sarah Palin) were running and that was worth noting. The best the GOP can muster today is a flip-flopper who says whatever is vogue for the moment just to get people to like him. They’re going to marry Romney eventually, but they’re not excited about it.

The young man then said he doesn’t care because he can’t stand Obama because he didn’t come through on his promises for gays. He meant that because gays can’t get married now (which takes an act of Congress to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act [DOMA]), that shows Obama doesn’t care about gays. Because Obama didn’t make gays a priority, that shows that he doesn’t care about gays.

I informed him, as I so often do to gay people who whine about how Obama hasn’t done squat for them, that Obama cleared the way for Federal domestic partner benefits to be granted for those who work for civilian agencies; he is supporting the Respect for Marriage Act, which repeals DOMA; he has stopped defending DOMA; he championed and led the charge to repeal Don’t Ask Don’t Tell (DADT) in Congress; and he also signed the Matthew Shepard Act, making it a federal hate crime to assault or kill gays based on their sexual orientation.

Yet, he hasn’t done enough! Who in their right mind thought that in the middle of an economic crisis, from the brink of which Obama saved us (and even conservative outlets admit that the stimulus has done some good despite making for good television to say it hasn’t) that gays should somehow take priority?

We talked some more about social issues and then he said that he’s more of a Libertarian than a Republican. I mentioned that Ron Paul isn’t too keen on gays and won’t do anything for them. He said, as Santorum was beating Romney, that no gay would vote for Santorum. I said as long as there is the Log Cabin GOP, there will always be gays who vote against their best interests. Gays will vote for Romney just so their party can be on top. It makes no sense to me. He’s stated that he intends to pass a Federal marriage amendment that would ensure that gays never get married in this country. The Supreme Court has already stated that Civil Unions could not be honored at the Federal level because it creates a 2nd class of citizen, which violates the 14th Amendment. (And, of course, I can’t find the link to that story about SCOTUS saying that in a legal decision. Ugh!)

After that he then stated, “I’m not really worried about social issues. I’m just worried about the economy. Obama is on track to spend more than Bush did in 8 years!” That part is true and troubling. I just like to look at the whole picture over what is causing the spending. I look at 2 wars. I look at tax cuts that aren’t paid for. I look at social programs that need a good overhaul to trim its waste. I’m not excusing the spending, but it’s been building for long before Obama. I think he just got socked with the brunt of it in the middle of a recession that wasn’t his fault.

So, after talking at length about social issues, he then states he is worried about the economy. He started off Republican then went Libertarian. He finally said he was mad he wasn’t being heard and went offline. Look, I remember being that age. I thought I knew so much, and especially knew more than anyone back home when I came to visit because I had textbook knowledge of a few things after my first semester. However, I knew when to not back down and change my opinions just to either get sympathy or change an argument strategy because I was losing.

Next time, don’t give up by twisting in the wind. Just have a seat.

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